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Old 08-24-2008, 01:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Good afternoon everyone! I'm hoping you can help me I.D. these gingers. I picked them up at some nurseries on vacation down in the FL panhandle. They didn't have any labels, but I was told that most of them are hardy in zone 8. Thank you very much.

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Old 08-24-2008, 02:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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#2 looks like some type of hedychium...
#3 a curcuma of some sort
#6 spiral ginger of some sort
ee looks like an alocasia calidora to me.
#4 also looks like a hedychium (Got a close up of the bloom?)
May be way off, but that is my 2 cents worth...
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Ginger #5 is 'Panama Purple'. I have one myself.
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Ginger #5 is 'Panama Purple'. I have one myself.
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Is it a curcuma?
Yes, I believe Curcuma longa is the Latin name.
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#1 is a Globba I guess,....
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Austin,
I am sure you have this info, but I thought I would update the id's for others here that are curious as to what they are...
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#1) Globba winitii
#2) Hedychium (unknown until bloom)
#3) Curcuma petiolata
#4) Hedychium (unknown until bloom)
#5) Curcuma zedoairia
#6) Costus speciosus

All should be able to handle your weather, as long as they are mulched. All that is, with the exception of possibly #6 and then it might be pushing it, but hey, don't we push anyway!!?!?!!
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Good job Randy. There is a possibility that #5 is something other than Zedoaria. There are several other Curcumas with a maroon stripe like Inodora and Aeruginosa. I have all three and if I didn't have tags in the ground, I would forget which are which without seeing the blooms. The Costus could also be Spicatus if the seller said it was hardy in Zone 8. Tough to tell without blooms.

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Hey great haul on the gingers!!!LOL
#1 has a beautiful bloom..
#3 Looks like mine it was labeled as Curcuma cordata..




#5 I have (2yrs) a plant that looks like that but has not yet bloomed.. If it doesn't soon it is OOH!!!

I also had spiral Ginger (not a true ginger) gave it all away...



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Yes, I believe Curcuma longa is the Latin name.
I was wrong about this one. I went to check for a tag on mine and can't find it so I checked through my notes. I know mine is Curcuma Panama Purple. I looked up the Curcuma zedoaria and the foliage does look like the picture too, Randy. Steve, you may be right too as there are so many different kinds of gingers/ Curcuma.
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Thanks everyone for your help! You guys are great! Randy, I appreciate you summarizing the information as well. Does anyone else have any thoughts?
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Can't help you with the ident I'm afraid, but I would give garden room to #1 in a heartbeat - never seem that before and it is gorgeous. Congratulations!
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Ginger #2 is Hedychium Coronarium, "White Butterfly Ginger". I started with 2 each last year and the year before, of 1-gallon pots of these. Last month, I divided one of the pots and ended up with 8 new pots with a piece of root each, of which 4 had active growth. Now, even the ones without growth have at least two growing plants. They are very fast growers, and the original 4 pots survived the last 2 winters in an unheated greenhouse.
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Here is a pic of my White Butterfly Ginger.. I also got a start of Orange Butterfly Ginger but it has not bloomed yet.. The foilage looks the same to me..



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Ginger #2 is Hedychium Coronarium, "White Butterfly Ginger". I started with 2 each last year and the year before, of 1-gallon pots of these. Last month, I divided one of the pots and ended up with 8 new pots with a piece of root each, of which 4 had active growth. Now, even the ones without growth have at least two growing plants. They are very fast growers, and the original 4 pots survived the last 2 winters in an unheated greenhouse.
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Please help me as I have trouble telling hedychiums apart without a bloom. Could you please explain how you can tell that this is indeed a coronarium. I have several coronarium and I can't tell it apart from several others that I have... Thanks for the help as I am always looking at learning more about identification.
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Please help me as I have trouble telling hedychiums apart without a bloom. Could you please explain how you can tell that this is indeed a coronarium. I have several coronarium and I can't tell it apart from several others that I have... Thanks for the help as I am always looking at learning more about identification.
It was an educated guess. H. Coronarium species is the most common ginger sold in nurseries because of proven cold hardiness (Zone 7-11), sturdy growth, and usually the most reasonably priced. They also have a larger leaf growth habit with lighter green color, almost banana like or canna like. This is the basis of my educated guess. I can spot a ginger plant of the Coronarium family fairly well in a group of gingers. But within the Coronarium family, I would have to see the flower to be absolutely certain. The ones that I have is probably all white with a pale yellow throat. Unless the nursery has a tag specifically identifying the variety, if it's labeled only as Hedychium, in all probability, it is a Coronarium.

Other Hedychiums have distinct leaf growth habits and color/pattern that are different from the Coronarium, and outside of being able to group them by family, I would not be able to tell which is which. Here are 3 examples, they may be some of what you have:
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Ginger #2 is Hedychium Coronarium, "White Butterfly Ginger". I started with 2 each last year and the year before, of 1-gallon pots of these. Last month, I divided one of the pots and ended up with 8 new pots with a piece of root each, of which 4 had active growth. Now, even the ones without growth have at least two growing plants. They are very fast growers, and the original 4 pots survived the last 2 winters in an unheated greenhouse.
Thanks, that's great. I am hoping these gingers will be hardy in my zone. I'm going to plant them in well drained soil with a southern exposure by my musa basjoos. I guess we'll see which ones are hardy and which ones are not come spring. I appreciate all the responses. You guys know your plants!
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Ginger #2 may well be Coronarium. It's very hard to tell. That particular picture shows the ginger to have been in a lot of sun. My Coronarium is in mostly shade and the leaves are dark green and much larger. As a general rule, the more sun, the more lightly colored the leaves will be and their shape will have that curled look. Ginger #4 is in bloom and it's definitely a Hedychium. There are dozens of hybrids that bear flowers that color so my guess would be any of the following: Pink V, Ayo, Pink Flame, Kinkako, Gahili. Pink V by far is the most common and is rated for Zone 7.
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