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I grafted 3 Tachima plums to my satsuma plum yesterday given to me by Joe Real last year. Those Tachimas took but the sticks are too long so I decided to cut it and to have new plants.

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Patty in Wisc

Hi Benny, did you do Cleft graft? If you just grafted it yesterday, how do you know that it 'took' already LOL

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We usually know about six weeks later. In this area this is not the right time of year to graft or t-Bud. We do many different types of grafts depending on scion and root stock size, and species.

Best wishes, I hope they are all takes.

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Patty: Those are the Tachima plums that Joe Real gave me last year. He said that they are particularly much bigger than a regular plum and much sweeter. I was saying that those tachimas took and now they are just one long stick. My experience was I have problems with them when they fruited. They usually bend and break before the fruit ripens so the next best thing to do is to cut them short and the cuttings I grafted them back to other trees.
Sorry if I misled you. I guess it is my English. Eh?
No, I don't do cleft graft anymore. In my view the union looks ugly so most of my grafts are bark graft. About 80 % of my grafts are like that because I am most successful on those. It seems like I can do no wrong. They all take in 99% of the time. That is if the mother tree has a bigger diameter than the scion I am inserting. But if both branches are the same diameter I do tongue and ....(I forgot the term) which is I am also successful. So I only do those 2 grafts now for all of my trees.

In my area they are now blooming with flower buds. I am cutting so much branches with so much flowers being wasted but it has to be done.

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Patty in Wisc

You go guy! I liked that whip & tongue too except I took the tape off too soon.
I'll have to look at Joe Reals tutorial on bark graft again. Good luck.

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Here's some samples of bark graft.
These are Tachima plums that were grafted to an Italian plum

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Here are samples of whip and tongue graft. I leave the tape there till it disintegrates itself. It can stay there for a year or so. I don't bother to remove it.
These were clemenules , a mandarin from Spain that were grafted to a pommelo.

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Another sample of whip and tongue graft.
In this case another persimmon grafted to my fuyo persimmon. Notice the grafting tape was left on indefinitely to the scionwood.

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Patty in Wisc

Nice job & thanks for showing that! I'm motivated even more now. I did take the tape off too soon on the whip & tongue but I won't next time!
I'm impressed. Is that 3 bark grafts on the same plum host?--same branch?
Wow Benny, I remember when you were just learning this.
I want to graft avocado, loquat, citrus (of course) and apple. Am thinking of whip & tongue or cleft for the apple. What do you think?

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Yes. I cut the Italian plum drastically because it becomes too large and too tall for my sprayer to reach. It becomes the source of aphids and sooty molds for my other plants. Besides I can't reach the fruit. It is not the same branch but only one main trunk and one tree. This time though I am trimming all of my plants into reachable heights. I am cutting a few of my grafts by doing so.
Before, I did a lot of experimenting, I tried that banana graft that I believe you introduced, budding, etc...... but I settled with 2 grafts I described above because it is easy to learn, fastest to do and to grow and easy to take. And once it took, you have a branch that is ready to flower in the same year.
I had my shortcomings before but in apples and peaches I found out that they are the easiest to take. You can't do any wrong on those trees.
Yes, you can do either way grafting on your apples. Both whip and tongue or cleft graft are perfect. Bark grafting sometimes are weak graft because the scion is only attach to the bark. A strong wind can dislodge a bark graft easily. And accidental pulling, that it happened to me many times before. CG and W&T graft are very strong graft against the wind or accidental pulling. But after a year or two you are safe once the union takes place permanently.
I don't have a chance to graft avocado and loquat yet. I love both fruits and love to have them but I don't have the space to grow them anymore.
I wonder if I can grow them in bigger pots? Like a wine barrel? I have plenty of those.

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Here's what I grafted this morning:
Sandowner apples,
golden russet,
and Cox Orange Pippin apples
and Nugget apricots.
Those are some scions that Joe Real and I got from Scion Exchange on Jan 12, 2009 I believe.
I have a lot more grafting to go.

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Later on during the day I grafted:
golden nectarine
banana flower apple ( I have no idea why it is called like this) maybe the apple looks like a banana flower? The same way as a peach that looks like a doughnut.
Dawson Cherry
As usual I got these scions at the scion exchange.

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Patty in Wisc

Apricot?? I love apricots. I will ask Joe if I can graft apricot to my loquat since loquats are similar - sort of. Thanks again.
The 5 in 1 apple tree I bought for Mike is still frozen & in snow so no grafting for awhile.

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Patty:
I found apricot just last summer when I was doing an electrical job in a Blynhym apricot field. I also ate one of the sweetest and juiciest apricot given to my wife with one of her coworkers who was a member of Rare fruit growers locally. I was sold to grow some. So I did ask my wife to get a branch from Maryann, her coworker. When I got some, I made a lot of apricot grafts to my matured plout and satsuma plum and Santa Rosa plums. They all took. I am now seeing a lot of blooming flowers on Maryann's apricot. I called it that since it was unknown- Maryann apricot. Better than Blynhym for sure.
I'll post some pics soon. I also found out that apricot is the easiest to take grafted on different cultivars. Ever since then, I grafted different kinds of apricots that I got from Costco and Home depot.

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Here's some of my grafted apricot:


I had a couple of fruits the same year I graft it in 2008.
The mother tree is a plout and you an see on the top left is a white peach.

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In another branch I have another white peach bloomed the same year.



And if you look closely at the bottom of the picture is another apricot plant. See the difference in the shape of the leaves?
You can also see unripe fruits of different cultivars at the background.

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But what is impressive is my grafts to my santa rosa plum. This is just one branch. I have grafts all over the canopy of this tree.



So all I can say is if you want to taste different fruits and you don't have space to grow them in your yard,graft your trees.

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Here is the mother host the Santa Rosa plum.

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Here's how it looks some part on top of the canopy:



Notice the different colors and shape of the fruits. Most of them are European plums that I got from the scion exchange.

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Benny I am speechless with admiration!! Wonderful!