Richard

I'll join Benny in thanking Joe for this information. It's a great insight to successful grafting.

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JoeReal

You're welcome Richard!

My wife has been complaining that I caress my grafts more than her!

Benny's in worst situation than me, he has been locked out of the house by his dear wife several times already whenever she sees him caressing his plants.

mskitty38583

ok heres a few solutions to the problem....dont let your wife see you doing it..tell her its better to caress the plants and trees then another woman...put a hammock in the yard. make sure you carry a spare key.

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I've never been that high on the priority list for someone to get jealous of the time I spend in the garden. From my wife's point of view, I'm nearly in last place, after the dog and before the cat. It's even worse with my teenage daughter, I'm in dead last place. The cat and I have worked this out though, I'm on the top of his buddy list.

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bencelest

I think let's form a club and cry to each others' shoulders.
Richard:
You and I are on the same boat. How many times I complained to my wife I was the last one on her priority list. I complained even our birds and cat has more priority than me.
The only one who treat me as an equal is my cat.
And even so she wants to be ahead of me when we go out in the garden and he would stand up and try to scratch the sliding door if she wants to get in. But once she is inside she would just walk straight ahead without even saying thank you or even look at you. As if it is your duty to open the door for her.

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Grafted Today, 3/22/2008:

Citrus:
Tango budded unto Mato Buntan Pummelo unto my soon to be 80-n-1 Citrus tree
Nordmann Seedless Nagami budded unto Carizzo (for Harvey)
Tango budded unto Carrizzo (for Harvey)
China Satsuma S-6 unto Flying Dragon (for my new Satsuma Collection)
China Satsuma S-6 budded unto Midknight Valencia


Persimmons ruled the day! All Bark Grafted.
Am topworking my lousy Giant Fuyu with better selections.
Saijo unto Giant Fuyu
Tamopan unto Giant Fuyu
Giant Fuyu (Dave Ulmer's selection which is sweeter) unto my lousy Giant Fuyu
Hana Fuyu unto Giant Fuyu
Gosho unto Giant Fuyu
Suruga Unto Giant Fuyu

D128 unto native American Persimmon
Nishijo unto D. lotus rootstock

Saijo unto Izu
Izu (Dave Ulmer's Selection) unto Izu
Imoto unto Izu
True Fuyu unto Izu

Imoto unto Jiro
Hana Fuyu unto Jiro
Hana Gosho unto Jiro
True Fuyu unto Jiro
Maekawa Jiro unto Jiro
Nishijo unto Jiro
Giant Fuyu (Dave Ulmer's) unto Jiro
Nishijo (from Val) unto Jiro

Richard

Man, I'll say persimmons ruled the day. By the way, I am trying using D. lotus D56 as a starting point for palatable lotus fruits.

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JoeReal

Wow, at least I now know of someone down South who loves native persimmons. How big does the D56 get? I've had some D. virginiana that fruited for me and they are seedless, but tiny, about half inch only, but very sweet.

Richard

The previous curator told me their lotus fruits were an inch or so long. She wasn't to impressed with the fruit either. They are propagating them for root stocks. However, I looked up the locations the seeds of their lotus were collected from. My contact in northwest India tells me that they are popular in the foothill region stretching from there westward through northern Iran. The climate zone there is zone 10 albeit at 5,000 feet elevation. So I chose cultivars from that region
D56.2 (female)
D56.4 (male)
D67.2 (female)

In the next year or so they will also be able to release wood grown from the seeds of two lotus trees in the great valley of the Caucasus mountains. The cultivars there are famous in the sense that it is the location of the lotus-eaters in the Odyssey story recorded by Homer.

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JoeReal

Great info you have there Richard! At least I know where to look for more exotic options on persimmons.

JoeReal

Grafted Today 03/23/2008

Persimmons:
Meader on D. lotus
Honan Red on Izu
Nishijo on Izu
Imoto on Izu
Dai-dai Maru on Izu
Jiro (selection 24276) on Izu
Nikitskaja Bordovaja on Izu
Jiro (selection 24276) on Jiro
Nikitskaja Bordovaja on D. virginiana

Apples:
Fiesta on Empire
Edward's on Duchess

Pears:
Yoinashi on spalding
Magness on Comice
Kosui on Comice
Chong's Pear on Spalding


And my poor hands!


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Richard

Joe, I have tested this many times myself and found there is no cambrian layer in human fingers!

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bencelest

So far, I am still lucky. Perhaps the reason is I use my lips and spit when grafting.
I graft to my (newly planted) pink Pearl A. Irwin apple (this is the apple my wife's coworker gave her) 1 granny Smith apple and 1 pippin apple .
To my Fuji apple : 4 pink pearl A. Irwin apple, 2 Granny Smith apple.
Anybody know annything about the pink pearl A. Irwin apple?

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JoeReal

Benny, those pink pearl are very vigorous and could take over if not tamed via pruning. They're on the tart side, at least here in Davis. They fruited on the same year I grafted them and yet, they're more vigorous than the host!

It is still too early for me to conclude about their taste. I'm giving them one more year before regrafting some of their branches. I will be keeping just a small branch for souvenir purposes and long term performance observation.

You have to try Fiesta apple. It is fireblight tolerant and taste good. Another good one to try is the Monark Apple. I'll give you some sticks next year if you want. I know that the Monark apple is not in the CRFG scionwood circulation yet.

chong

Joe-
By now, you're more famous in the Philippines for the Easter pictures of your "plantation" in the Philippine Rare Fruit Group forum. Those bloom pictures were gorgeous, esp., given the clear day that it was taken. I don't know if you've posted them here also.

bencelest

Chong:
I bet Pacqiaou is more famous than Joe. Nice close fight. Huh!
Thanks Joe.
Yes, very vigorous. From 6 inches the first year and 3 feet the 2nd year. I graft them 8 days ago and are starting to bud. 2 leaves at least.
Oh, yes, if you can spare some.
I can use the pink pearl as the mother host.
The reason why I graft a Granny Smith apple is that
I am in for apple pies. My kids like my apple pies even though I was using the Fuji.
There's nothing taste better than home cooking! That's why I got me some granny apples at the CRFG meeting. I am also experimenting how to make the dough. Any takers?

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chong

Who is Pacquiao?????? (LOL)

Richard

On most Mondays I bake breads and such, and Thursday is the day for making pasta. My favorite pie dough recipies are from the Joy of Cooking. Its a good instruction manual. Another good choice is The Pie and Pastry Bible by Rose Beranbaum.

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bencelest

Thanks Richard. I'll look for them asap.

What I graft today:
About 6 Asian apple scions that I got from my sister's place 2 years ago and grafted to the Fuji apple.. I cut some branches and put them on the same Fuji apple tree except at the canopy tops . The Fuji is getting too high to reach the fruits with my 4 foot ladder.
This Asian apple is superb in taste nowhere else I can buy. It was given to my sister by a Japanese old man which is their close friend.
This Asian apple are starting to bear flowers too.

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Richard

Benny,
The asian apple you have grafted: I wonder if it would bear fruit at my location. What is the estimated chill hours at your location? Mine is 250-300.

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