Chironex

Just thought I would start this thread to let everyone post their opinions on the candidates. Officially, I do not approve of either candidate for one reason or another. Frankly, the whole thing is a frustrating, steaming pile of bovine excrement to me.

But here is an email I received today:

Below are a few lines from Obama's books; In his words!

From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attri butes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'


Oh really????!!! It will be a cold day in hell before I vote for anyone with such radical views.

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mskitty38583

Chuck, moved to Texas and bought a donkey from a farmer for $100.00. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day. The next day he drove up and said, "Sorry son, but I have some bad news, the donkey died."

Chuck replied, "Well, then,just give me my money back."

The farmer said, "Can't do that. I went and spent it already."

Chuck said, "Ok, then, just bring me the dead donkey."

The farmer asked, "What ya gonna do with him?

Chuck said, "I'm going to raffle him off."

The farmer said, "You can't raffle off a dead donkey!"

Chuck said, "Sure I can. Watch me. I just won't tell anybody he's dead."

A month later, the farmer met up with Chuck and asked, "What happened with that dead donkey? "

Chuck said, "I raffle d him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a piece and made a profit of $898.00."

The farmer said, "Didn't anyone complain?"

Chuck said, "Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back."

Chuck grew up and works for the government.

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chong

Miss Sam, you are killing me! ! ! ! ! ! LMAO. I think I'll memorize that one for the next party.

southlatropical

Did you read the book? Have you read these quotations in context to the rest of the book?

I am neither a fan of Barack Obama or John McCain. As a moderate I am screwed. What I do know in my simple mind is that everything I have is a direct result of working under some kind of union contract since I graduated high school. First I joined the electricians union. I was working at a body shop and the raise I was promised had not taken effect. I went to the owners office 'hat in hand' to inquire why the pay I was promised was not reflected on my check. He treated me like an aggrevation. Like it was a bother that I wanted the pay he had promised. That was the last time I ever begged for money. I quit. I joined a union. And since the age of 19 I've had health insurance and a pension.

With the exception a few poloticians on the east coast and a few from the Michigan/Missouri area, Republicans have consistantly and quietly taken positions that directly threaten my financial security. And most all Republicans oppose the very unions that have helped to put food on my table all these years. After hurricane Katrina presidant Bush suspended the Davis Bacaon Act allowing a flood of immigrant labor to replace local electricians in New Orleans. At a time of crisis our president put local victims out of work who were trying to rebuild their own city.
Bush Suspends Pay Act In Areas Hit by Storm
Bush Suspends Davis-Bacon Wage Protection in Katrina Zone
Post-Katrina easing of labor laws stirs debate | csmonitor.com
John McCain supported this action.

In the late 70's and early 80's pay for construction workers in Louisiana was at a very high rate. While the rest of the country struggled with inflation and unemployment the construction of petro-chemical plants gave working people a way to comfortable middle class life. My father was included in this group as a pipeline welder and member of the pipefitters union. We always went to the doctor for check ups. And illness was not feared because we had health insurance through the union. Then under president Reagan came the push for the 'Right to Work Law'. To make a long story short this law has a nice name and a mean effect on wages.
Right to Work for Less
In a nut shell, my young father and mother went from getting on their feet to hauling all of their kids out on the road looking for work. I've lived in New Mexico, New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetes. Thanks for the 8 year road trip Right to Work Law. The household median income for right to work states is substantially below non-right to work states. John McCain supports a national right to work law.

I could go on forever talking about the 'little ways' that republicans have screwed working people, but the bottom line is best explained by a joke.......

If your car is broke down on the side of the road and a car full of republicans passes by they will laugh while they sip champagne and smoke cigars.
If a car full of democrats passes by, they will stop and try to help but your car will end up more screwed up than it was in the first place.

I am from the south. I hunt and I'm pro-gun. I do not think abortion is right so I guess I'm pro life. But above all I'm pro-me. I need to make a decent living. And that is something that a republican has never given a **** about. I don't know who I'll vote for, but I will surely be gritting my teeth when I push the button.

Rush Limbaugh says that moderates have no conviction.....................as he sits in his mansion in S. Florida popping oxycontin waiting for his illegal immigrant maid to get him a sandwich.

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CookieCows

I know who I'm going to vote for but I'm going to be gritting my teeth too.

Deb

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microfarmer

Flame suit on high!!

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lorax

I'm an expat Canadian in South America, but if I could vote in the US elections I'd be writing-in for Sen. Al Franken.

mskitty38583

i didnt post ths video in the regulare way because it does have some graphic
scenes. it is very thought provoking.

Http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/h...t=Untitled.flv

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CookieCows

I can't get it to come up. I just see a photo bucket page where you log in.

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mskitty38583

You can do one fo two things to see this video. You can click on the hyper-link above, or you can copy, then paste it into your address bar.

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chong

Thanks Miss Sam,
I only know how it feels to wait for a son who was in the 82nd Airborne, who went to Panama and the Desert Storm. Thank Heavens he came home safely. Although somewhat emotionally affected, after a couple of years, he's able to put it behind him and he's now married and has three children.

Chironex

Isaac, please read my post carefully once again, especially the first paragraph. I will not engage anyone in debate about their beliefs in this forum. These are THEIR beliefs, based upon their own background, culture, circumstances, etc. Far be it from me to judge an individual's rationale.

Loved the joke and the video, thank you!

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Mason

That's a funny joke! But what does that have to do with the presidential canidates?

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mskitty38583

the last sentence, tells how chuck stole from people...and when he grew up he now works for the government. i think that to run for president it is require in some college courses that you learn to: lie, cheat and steal.

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saltydad

As a joke that is funny. But I grew up with a father who spent his career working for the Federal government as a statistician and economist in the Census Bureau. He was the hardest working and most honest man I have ever known. Every day of my life I hope to live as he did, may he rest in peace. Not debating here, just stating my experience. Something to keep in mind when we all joke about government workers. Thanks.

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southlatropical

I was not trying to debate. Polotics in our country just frustrates the heck out of me. I'm sure it has that effect on most people. I normally try to never talk polotics b/c it only gets me angry. I should'nt have even posted on this thread. There is so little focus on reasonable solutions to our problems. And what you get is so much attention and sensationalizing on non-issues. I only asked if you had read the book b/c I have not. Anything, words, voting records, ect. can be taken out of context.The media and the public in general, seem to talk more about wether or not this guy wore a flag pin. Or this candidtate may have had an affair with a lobbiest. That's why when a sensible middle of the road polotition runs for this office they never win. Where there are common sense, compromise solutions there is boredom. The only candidates that get air time are the ones that have a provocative storyline.

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Mason

I know. All the politicians nowadays are liars.

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chong

Hey, it's not easy being a politician these days, you know? They gotta work hard to be where they are. Or, is that to be what they are! LOL!

mskitty38583

my dad sent this to me this morning...i laughed so hard i almost fell out the chair!


This Scot makes a valid point!

An email from Scotland to their brethren in the States...
'We, in Scotland , cannot figure out why you people are
even botherin' to hold an election in the United States
.On one side, ye have a pants-wearing lady lawyer, married
to another lawyer who can't keep his pants on, who just
lost a long and heated primary against another lawyer who
goes to the wrong church, who is married to yet another
lawyer who doesn't even like the country her husband
wants to run!
Now... On the other side, you have a nice, old war hero
whose name starts with the appropriate Mc terminology,
married to a good looking younger woman who just happens to
own a beer distributorship!
What in Lord's name are ye lads thinkin' over there
in the colonies

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